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Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Donald Hafner
I was one of the Lincoln Minute Men that Mr. Shapse saw this morning, so let me explain.

We did in fact carefully consider the issue Mr. Shapse raises, but the fact is that it is not possible to load and fire a musket, nor to play a fife, with a face mask on.  So we took the following precautions to assure the safety of ourselves and spectators.

• Except when we were in place to salute the Town parade, we kept our face masks on.

• We asked spectators to stay well away from us at all times, and everyone cooperated.

• Our Lincoln Minute Men volunteers were either all from the same household or made sure that we stayed proper distances from each other.  I was the fifer, for instance, and because blowing on a fife could pose a health hazard to others, I stayed 15 feet away from the other Minute Men and from the road where cars were passing by.

In sum, we were practicing proper social distancing among ourselves, and doing the best we could to keep others from getting too close to us.  Since wearing face masks while participating in the Town’s celebratory event would not have been possible for us, the alternative would have been for us not to participate at all.  

The Lincoln Minute Men have never failed to help the Town celebrate the Fourth of July in the 54 years that we have been a town organization.  We felt it important to maintain that tradition, without posing a health hazard.  I believe that is exactly what we did.

Don Hafner
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The Lincoln Minute Men


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Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:55 AM
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Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Stephanie Smoot
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I was a spectator at 10:30 and i thought the minutemen were doing a fair job social distancing and probably don't deserve such a strong dressing down.  .The fifer was far from the soldiers.  Eyeballing Distances outside (or passing by in a car) can be deceiving as they appear smaller than indoors. But thank for the reminder. 

On Saturday, July 4, 2020, Steven N. Shapse, Ph.D. via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:
Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

beryl ann cowan
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Thank you , Steven ,for writing this. 

Today , I returned from a quiet walk around Lincoln deeply saddened. Usually my  daily walks are my opportunity to connect with the extraordinary beauty of this town and serve as  respite from  my work as a full time health provider caring for others in these extremely troubling times. As do many of us, I struggle to process the burden and concern I feel  as I witness how others are faring , particularly those with  so much less privilege,  as they lose jobs and loved ones to the pandemic. My own heart is heavy with fear as family members serve as physicians on the front lines  in Western states where cases are spiking due to nothing short of indifference and squandered  collective opportunities to make things safer for all of us.

Today, like you , I encountered the Minutemen re- enactors congregated in a  close cluster on Lincoln Road  with out masks. No effort  was made to clear a path or make it easier for me  to pass  by the  approximately ten men who eschewed appropriate social distance. The congregants ignored  my polite requests while they talked and laughed. I was appalled.

But it’s not simply the Minutemen. During today’s walk more than half the people I encountered along the way  were not masked.  Unmasked  people of all ages walked  either as individuals or groups and made no effort to adjust their distance  to me, as I walked  with my mask on while trying to proceed. People on bikes ,again without  masks , rode on the  paved paths forcing me to retreat into the poison ivy strewn sides  of foliage when they clearly could ride on the quiet streets.  Needless to say- my experience outdoors today was turned into an effort to avoid countless people who care about their own privilege and entitlement, but nothing for any one else.

What does this say? I cannot avoid  interpreting  this behavior as a statement that too many  people value their lives and liberties not only more than the well-being of their neighbor but that of the public good. This is not only a rejection of science but decency.  We can and must do better, not only on the 4th , but everyday.

Beryl Ann Cowan 


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On Jul 4, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Steven N. Shapse, Ph.D. via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Anne Warner
I am with you all the way, Beryl.  I run five miles every day on the wooded paths, and it seems that more than half of the people I see there just do not consider our woods to be "public places" where it is recommended that they put on a mask when within 6 feet of others.  I'm fine with keeping the mask around one's neck or in one's hand when alone on the paths, but please friends and neighbors:  cover your faces, even in the woods, when others are near.  Even though you may feel healthy and not at risk personally, many of us are at risk for all sorts of reasons that are too personal to explain, and you may be a carrier whether you know it or not.  Wearing a mask when outside your own house and within 6 feet of others is not only courteous, it is also strongly recommended based on scientific evidence. Please.  Anne Warner

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:09 PM Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thank you , Steven ,for writing this. 

Today , I returned from a quiet walk around Lincoln deeply saddened. Usually my  daily walks are my opportunity to connect with the extraordinary beauty of this town and serve as  respite from  my work as a full time health provider caring for others in these extremely troubling times. As do many of us, I struggle to process the burden and concern I feel  as I witness how others are faring , particularly those with  so much less privilege,  as they lose jobs and loved ones to the pandemic. My own heart is heavy with fear as family members serve as physicians on the front lines  in Western states where cases are spiking due to nothing short of indifference and squandered  collective opportunities to make things safer for all of us.

Today, like you , I encountered the Minutemen re- enactors congregated in a  close cluster on Lincoln Road  with out masks. No effort  was made to clear a path or make it easier for me  to pass  by the  approximately ten men who eschewed appropriate social distance. The congregants ignored  my polite requests while they talked and laughed. I was appalled.

But it’s not simply the Minutemen. During today’s walk more than half the people I encountered along the way  were not masked.  Unmasked  people of all ages walked  either as individuals or groups and made no effort to adjust their distance  to me, as I walked  with my mask on while trying to proceed. People on bikes ,again without  masks , rode on the  paved paths forcing me to retreat into the poison ivy strewn sides  of foliage when they clearly could ride on the quiet streets.  Needless to say- my experience outdoors today was turned into an effort to avoid countless people who care about their own privilege and entitlement, but nothing for any one else.

What does this say? I cannot avoid  interpreting  this behavior as a statement that too many  people value their lives and liberties not only more than the well-being of their neighbor but that of the public good. This is not only a rejection of science but decency.  We can and must do better, not only on the 4th , but everyday.

Beryl Ann Cowan 


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On Jul 4, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Steven N. Shapse, Ph.D. via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

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It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

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On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Richard Panetta
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I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Richard Panetta

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

J Palmer
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Richard Panetta
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

J Palmer
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Richard Panetta
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 




On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

J Palmer
you're talking MAY?  with a repug governor who doesn't car about reality here/  Wake up.
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 




On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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"Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind."  Henry James  










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"Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind."  Henry James  










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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Richard Panetta
That’s when the order was given. Funny because some say he has done a great job and we are one of the lower States in the Country right now. 🤷🏻‍♀️

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:14 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
you're talking MAY?  with a repug governor who doesn't car about reality here/  Wake up.
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 




On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

J Palmer
May is old times at this point and the governor is a repug who doesn't care about the people at this point, you must agree, he is a party member who doesn't really know what to do because his party is still tuned into make money no matter what?  Please. 
 WE are in the midst of an awful pandemic (tthat with a virus I hear is multiplying big time in its contagion ?).  We need to take this very seriously if we care about those around us?  Please. I do.   
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:16 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
That’s when the order was given. Funny because some say he has done a great job and we are one of the lower States in the Country right now. 🤷🏻‍♀️

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:14 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
you're talking MAY?  with a repug governor who doesn't car about reality here/  Wake up.
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 




On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Anne Warner
I am a die hard Massachusetts Democrat but I take exception to our governor Charlie Baker being demeaned as a “repug” - a term which itself is repugnant. Baker, in my view, has been doing an excellent job, and we are lucky to have him. Massachusetts has a long tradition of electing Republicans who are capable, intelligent, and and fair, even if they aren’t Democrats. Baker is one of these, and his intelligence and dedication are a shining star in this COVID mess. My two cents. 

- Sent from iPhone. Typed by thumb. Excuse misspellings! 

On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:27 PM, J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:


May is old times at this point and the governor is a repug who doesn't care about the people at this point, you must agree, he is a party member who doesn't really know what to do because his party is still tuned into make money no matter what?  Please. 
 WE are in the midst of an awful pandemic (tthat with a virus I hear is multiplying big time in its contagion ?).  We need to take this very seriously if we care about those around us?  Please. I do.   
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:16 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
That’s when the order was given. Funny because some say he has done a great job and we are one of the lower States in the Country right now. 🤷🏻‍♀️

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:14 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
you're talking MAY?  with a repug governor who doesn't car about reality here/  Wake up.
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 


<IMG_4670.jpg>


On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Rey Rey Romero
I wear a mask to protect my identity
from the selfless good deed of protecting you and your family.

My anonymity is a good quality while doing all good things for humanity. 

Call me a hero? nah, I do it naturally and hope that you would treat me the same publicly.

Airborne brutality, community's intensities
who's information to the nation has more credibility? 

WHO CARES!! better safe for your face 
than to add another case in this human race ...for life...so get yourself right cause this fight belongs to all of us. 

The teen of America is, Covid-19 
with a rude attitude and moving blindly.


(This was a public message for those, who fight those, who are those)



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 8:30 PM Anne Warner <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am a die hard Massachusetts Democrat but I take exception to our governor Charlie Baker being demeaned as a “repug” - a term which itself is repugnant. Baker, in my view, has been doing an excellent job, and we are lucky to have him. Massachusetts has a long tradition of electing Republicans who are capable, intelligent, and and fair, even if they aren’t Democrats. Baker is one of these, and his intelligence and dedication are a shining star in this COVID mess. My two cents. 

- Sent from iPhone. Typed by thumb. Excuse misspellings! 

On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:27 PM, J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:


May is old times at this point and the governor is a repug who doesn't care about the people at this point, you must agree, he is a party member who doesn't really know what to do because his party is still tuned into make money no matter what?  Please. 
 WE are in the midst of an awful pandemic (tthat with a virus I hear is multiplying big time in its contagion ?).  We need to take this very seriously if we care about those around us?  Please. I do.   
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:16 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
That’s when the order was given. Funny because some say he has done a great job and we are one of the lower States in the Country right now. 🤷🏻‍♀️

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:14 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
you're talking MAY?  with a repug governor who doesn't car about reality here/  Wake up.
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 


<IMG_4670.jpg>


On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Minutemen Don't Wear Masks!

Tamika Mayes
In reply to this post by J Palmer
May is old times but the order hasn't been revised....sometimes it best to mind your own business. Besides it is really hard to catch the virus outside. I also want the trees to do their job which is absorb my waste, and produce Oxygen so I can continue to BREATHE. 

Lastly as someone who has family is Texas where a the virus is making a comeback the rules we have in place are working very well. My family said they should adopt the same policies we have in place here in Texas. Masks aren't aren't required down there and most people are not practice social distancing from what  I understand. 

Just saying 🤷🤷🤷

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 4:27 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
May is old times at this point and the governor is a repug who doesn't care about the people at this point, you must agree, he is a party member who doesn't really know what to do because his party is still tuned into make money no matter what?  Please. 
 WE are in the midst of an awful pandemic (tthat with a virus I hear is multiplying big time in its contagion ?).  We need to take this very seriously if we care about those around us?  Please. I do.   
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:16 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
That’s when the order was given. Funny because some say he has done a great job and we are one of the lower States in the Country right now. 🤷🏻‍♀️

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:14 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
you're talking MAY?  with a repug governor who doesn't car about reality here/  Wake up.
Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Um per the Governor. See his order  below “ unable to or does not maintain a distance of 6ft” 


Well perhaps we shouldn’t have gathered in large groups protesting either but many saw no issue with that when it was happening 




On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
As your wrote:
"Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from."
the above quote from you is dangerous nonsense. Who are these "experts" you quote? Who exactly does not recommend masks outside??? 
 I'm not surprised  you haven't shared this reply to me with lincoln talk.  You need to wake up and be tuned into what this country is facing big time. We live in very dangerous times.  
WE are the #1 country in the world with more people at risk from Covid right now. We're #1; Ithink you support that?  I don't  I despaire. 
We are banned from traveling tothe European Union because we, as a country, are not being careful enough.   Are you unaware of this?   I suspect you are, Wake up.  
I always care for those most vulnerable and that is why I have taken you on.  You need to wear a mask AND gloves whenever you go out (and I do when I go out) to protect you and your family.  I do this in Lincoln all thetime.  
What is your agenda anyway? We live in very dangerous times, that need to be taken very seriously.  I hope you do.  Please   
Jean Palmer   

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
Masks are not recommended  if you are outdoors UNLESS you can not stay 6 ft away. The “experts” say 6 ft distance is okay. That is where the information is coming from.

Not that it is any of your business nor do I owe you an explanation but even with my condition I do wear one when shopping indoors for others. 

Again I say be careful if responding to people when you do not know the whole story 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM J Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
And how do you actually know that NOT wearing a mask is safe for you , who need protection.  Please let me know where your information comes from, about not wearing a mask? I wear a mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not really myself and THAT's WHY i WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.  So y where am I wrong on this?  I'm not being rude but exceedingly careful and caring about other people. So where am I wrong about this that you had to post this?  Please let me know.  I respect your position?  So tell me why people don't have to wear masks?  I really do want to know. Better to be careful, not sorry is how I feel.  You this that this is rude.  Please let me know.  

Jean Palmer

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:20 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:

  [hidden email]> wrote:
you are special and don't need to wear a mask, for other people?  I get it.  That's why we are where we are... That's why we ar where are #1 in Covid.  I get it.  Get real. 
Jean Palmer



I am Sharing the above reply with LT to show how rude some people can be 

 Not like you need to know Ms Palmer but I have a health condition for one and secondly as long as you keep 6 ft of distance a mask is NOT needed which I stated we were doing .so spare me the higher than mighty attitude!!

This is why we are in the situation as a Country. People make assumptions and are disrespectful to other people’s needs and issues.

THIS is what I want to change for our Country 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM J Palmer <j
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM Richard Panetta <[hidden email]> wrote:
I find these interesting as my walk today along Trapelo and to town hall was completely different. A few couples worn masks when passing, bikers were all on the road and not the bike path. I and a few others did not have masks yet avoided each other easily giving 6 ft of distance 



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:06 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s curious to me that several posts on LincolnTalk point out issues about lack of masks, not following protocol on social distancing, failure to observe the arrows designating which isle is up or down, drivers not observing speed limits.

I do not want to start a controversy on LincolnTalk but I personally prefer a conversation in real time if you feel strongly about the situation that breaks protocol or otherwise.

It’s also easier than trying to think back if I was involved in the situation.

Best,
Jacqueline 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 4, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Beryl Ann Cowan <[hidden email]> wrote:


Around 10:30 AM today, July 4th our Nation's birthday, I passed by Lincoln and Codman roads, in front of the police station. As many may know, there was appreciation being shown for our First Responders--those on the front lines of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as just a celebration of July 4th. Many people and families with young children were about.

I was astounded that none of the group of Minutemen gathered wore masks. I rolled down my window as I drove by on the way to Codman Farm and asked them where were their masks?; to wear their masks. Many smiled at my comment and one held up the mask he wasn't wearing. My impression was they felt, as they were unmasked and standing grouped together with less than 6 feet separation, my question and request about masks was a joke. 

What a poor example to set. In my humble opinion, the Minutemen and other  community leaders and organizations need to set an example of what to do. Not only are we all in this together, we need to work together to keep everyone healthy. If anything, California, Texas and Arizona should be warning enough about what not to do. 

If nothing else, the Minutemen I saw this morning owe the citizens of  this town an apology for their thoughtless behavior and failure to set a good example.  

I wish all  to stay healthy.

Steven

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